What is worse racism or paedophilia ?

Don't you think that if she's an ordained priest in the Church of England, she might expect the Christianity to be taken as read, without the need to state explicitly who she prays to?

And what possible objection can there be to your giving us a link to her web page, so that we can judge for ourselves?

Jean, I do not know whether Curate Jude/Judith is gay or not but that is not the point.

The point is that lesbians are HUGELY more prevalent amongst C of E clergy than in the population as a whole.

How do you account for that except by deliberate entryism by a tiny, politically (but definitely NOT religiously) motivated minority?

I find it very difficult to account for its happening except by a co-ordinated and sustained effort by lesbians to change a hated "patriarchal" institution.

It's exactly the same point, marchesa.

You speculate about the sexuality of 'Curate Jude' with the same easy absence of evidence that you employ in speculating about the 'prevalence' of lesbians among the Anglican priesthood.

You've offered no evidence for either.

Here's an interesting point of view.

It may be sadly true that professions seen as 'female dominated' lack proper reward or esteem. Is that because men reject such 'callings' because they can earn more money elsewhere, or alternatively because they don't want to be seen to do the things that women do?

Either way, is 'status' is the only criterion which we would want to use to determine worth?

(Oh - and there's no such thing as the British C of E, as LMH will tell you.)

I speak of the British C of E to distinguish it from the rest of the Worldwide Anglican Communion, m'lady.

I think the lesbian infiltration has progressed further here than elsewhere.

And, of course, it is "infiltration" because the C of E is a bit ambivalent, to say the least, about practising homosexual clergy. To that extent it remains a still live and kicking part of life's rich tapestry and cultural diversity in multicultural Britain, I guess.

The multiculturalist branch of PCdom must find itself a bit at odds, I dare say, with the the branch which is so intolerant of "patriarchal" religious organisations. Do militant gays experience no sense of contradiction between supporting multiculturalism with respect to Islam and opposing it with respect to Traditional Anglicanism? I guess that would be to assume a degree of rationality this self-serving militant minority does not possess, though.

And no, Aubrey et al, I don't "hate" gays in the least. I live with three of them. What I object to is a tiny clique of politically motivated lesbian activists attacking a perfectly legitimate institution upholding "traditional" values they do not happen to share. Whatever happened to tolerance of diversity?

Whilst I have no desire to prevent them carrying out their infiltration of a hated institution, that does not mean I have to remain silent about their activity, does it? Whatever happened to freedom of speech? And if a bit of ridicule can be used to draw attention to their behaviour so much the better.

Aubrey, I don't think there are quite enough lesbians to "take over". Let's not exaggerate the situation, dear. It's not "Today the
C of E, Tomorrow the World" territory we are in, after all!

I just feel sorry for the Anglicans having to deal with this utterly implacable bunch of sexist nutters

Ask LMH, she's seen the link and may have listened to the talk.

But IF Curate Jude were in a relationship with a gay lover I doubt that you would get the "whole" story from her on a public message board since the UK Anglican Church expects its gay ministers to be celibate. So be careful what you ask! Lesbian clergy have to be discrete.

She certainly LOOKS the part of a lesbian curate and has a very striking New Testament appearance and she certainly describes "politics" and "most sports" as passions and the way she speaks is certainly "blokish" and some lesbians do change their names to unisex variants, don't they? All this is mere surmise on my part, of course. Perhaps I put 2 and 2 together and got 5? On the other hand if it looks like a duck.........

But I could be just jumping to the wrong conclusions. Judge for yourself if YOU need to take it further - and I guess YOU do! Send her an email or make discrete enquiries on your lesbian grapevine. She'll lurve to learn that she has been discussed by a homophobe on a message board who witnessed her in action at a funeral service!

I'd save her feelings if I were you. There is no reason to think she reads this board, after all. And you can just dismiss my thoughts as the ranting of an all-round misanthropist because that is the best you and your pals can ever come up with, isn't it?