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[Pink Betty]

I'm not laughing at Gus - i wish he would bring his unique brand of commonsense back to JSG.

[Daz Madrigal]

Or his rather common brand of unique oddness.

[sandywinder]

gus2 said:

sandywinder said:

Yes Daz, Britain had too many bolshi appeasers who wanted us NOT to have any army or deterrent against the Germans. The same kind of idiots who are around today and don't want us to have an army or any deterrent. Maybe even people like GUS.

And I don't suppose it occurred to Gus that but for Britain and the Americans, Russia would have been overrun by Germans as well.

Well it seems that i need to aquaint you, daz and the other right wing nuts on JSG the REAL facts.
You see it happend like this. Once upon a time children there was a big bad wolf called Nazism, and this big bad wolf wanted to kill another big bad wolf called Bolshevism. A very clever pig called Capitalism waited until 1944, yes children the Capitalist pig let them fight to see who would win and only when it was plain to see that the Bolshevics were winning did the Capitalist pig decide to "help"
and they lived happily ever after.
Thats it sandy and daz now go to sleep and when you wake up in the morning you can run over and play with the other nuts children on JSG and tell them the way it really is.

gus

I think I need to acquaint you with both history and geography, Gus.

The 1939 war was in Europe not in America.

America stepped in when attacked by Japan in 1941.

So you blame America when they didn't step in over Germany and you blame them when they DO step in over Iraq.

Can't you make your sodding mind up, Gus?

[sandywinder]

mrs said:

Gus is right ... Soviets kept hordes of 'em busy and off our backs, dropping dead of starvation in the streets though they were. But that's information you have to go looking for, because the "winners" get all the publicity.

The Soviet/Slavic people were another one of Nazi Germany's targets for extermination, though in their case it was mostly enslavement, so they had as much to fight for as anyone else politics aside.

And WE kept hordes of 'em busy as well and off their backs. What could the Germans have done to Russia had their planes not been blown up by our pilots,etc trying to destroy Britain? Anybody remember the Battle of Britain in 1940?

And if only the winners get all the publicity how exactly did Russia LOSE? Was getting control of most of East Europe a failure?

But you are right that the Russians did suffer terribly in WW2. Then again their leaders didn't worry as much about their citizens lives, being Commie and all that.

[gus2]

madrigalman said:

gus2 said:

Are you smoking the happy weed again daz.?

"There's no real reason for the Russians to save our skins whereas there are historic ties that bind us to the Americans"

ha ha ha ha continued on page 94

gus

I don't think you need any, Gus, you're already bonkers as it is.

As far as I know the Russians don't share any ancestery with us whatsoever, Gus..they're not remotely interested in this silly little windswept Island.

To be quite frank with you , neither am I

gus

[gus2]

darinka said:

gus2 said:

hello Darinka. The ukrainien currency is called hryvnya and it is pronounced as far as i can make out as ' greevnja' there are almost 10 h to 1 pound, 5 to the american dollar.

Marlboro cigs 4 h
Chesterfields 3.50
and for anyone else who is interested here are a few more prices.
pork loin 24h per kilo
apples 5h per kilo
german coffee 40h per kilo. ukrainien 35h
milk, litre 2.50h
10 eggs 5h
vodka , litre cheap 10h, better quality 20h btw there are dozens to choose from.
beer half litre 3h
My girl friends rent for a three room apartment (2 bedrooms) including gas, electricity, water, is 300h per month
average wage around 1000h per month.
old age state pension between 300 and 400 per month but they pay no rent.

gus

hello gus,

cigarettes are very cheap there. my colleague was there two years ago and they allowed to take from the country only two packages for 10boxes:(

I don't smoke Darinka, so i don't have a lot of interest in the price, but I notice that a lot of men do in the Ukraine, but i never saw a woman smoking on the street. When I asked my girl friend about this she said it is because only prostitutes do this and that is how the men distinguish the chaff from the wheat if that is the right metaphor. I really admire the woman in Ukraine, the poverty, the men's terrible addiction to alcohol. the sheer adversity of living without the benefits that women in the west take for granted, it blew my mind. God bless them all. I will certainly be going back.

gus

[gus2]

admin said:

I'm not laughing at Gus - i wish he would bring his unique brand of commonsense back to JSG.

I suppose i would rather be laughed with than at, I mean who wouldn't but both are better than being cried over.
Do you remember when i first joined JSG PM. I had hardly opened my mouth when a right winger without the slightest provocation called me Comrade implying that I have communist sympathies. I retaliated by calling him Gauleiter implying that he had Nazi sympathies and all hell broke loose. The gang of four and their minions printed obscene drawings with my name on called me every derogatory name they could find in the dictionary and you want me to go back for some more of their nasty small minded victimisation knowing they are backed by the mods. puh leeeze!!!

gus

[gus2]

sandywinder said:

gus2 said:

Well it seems that i need to aquaint you, daz and the other right wing nuts on JSG the REAL facts.
You see it happend like this. Once upon a time children there was a big bad wolf called Nazism, and this big bad wolf wanted to kill another big bad wolf called Bolshevism. A very clever pig called Capitalism waited until 1944, yes children the Capitalist pig let them fight to see who would win and only when it was plain to see that the Bolshevics were winning did the Capitalist pig decide to "help"
and they lived happily ever after.
Thats it sandy and daz now go to sleep and when you wake up in the morning you can run over and play with the other nuts children on JSG and tell them the way it really is.

gus

I think I need to acquaint you with both history and geography, Gus.

The 1939 war was in Europe not in America.

America stepped in when attacked by Japan in 1941.

So you blame America when they didn't step in over Germany and you blame them when they DO step in over Iraq.

Can't you make your sodding mind up, Gus?

I do not deny that the war was started by Britain in 1939 but you do realise it was known as the phoney war, why? 'cos bugger all happend that's why. The REAL fighting was between Germany and the Soviets and the Yanks and Brits in their nice uniforms. and ice cream after dinner, and the batman washing up afterwards everything tickety boo, home fires burning, stout chaps. jolly good what. is not REALLY war is it? If you think otherwise count the German and Soviet dead both military and civilian then come back and tell me about the fun and games the Yanks and the Brits had in WW2.

gus

[Daz Madrigal]

gus2 said:

madrigalman said:

I don't think you need any, Gus, you're already bonkers as it is.

As far as I know the Russians don't share any ancestery with us whatsoever, Gus..they're not remotely interested in this silly little windswept Island.

To be quite honest I couldn't give a blue fcuk about the UK.



gus

Exactly, Gus.

As per usual there IS a grain of truth in what you say. However, you are missing the main point.

Without the Yanks we would be talking German and under Fascist Govt..now you may be happy about that but I am not.

[Daz Madrigal]

gus2 said:

sandywinder said:

I think I need to acquaint you with both history and geography, Gus.

The 1939 war was in Europe not in America.

America stepped in when attacked by Japan in 1941.

So you blame America when they didn't step in over Germany and you blame them when they DO step in over Iraq.

Can't you make your sodding mind up, Gus?

I do not deny that the war was started by Britain in 1939 but you do realise it was known as the phoney war, why? 'cos bugger all happend that's why. The REAL fighting was between Germany and the Soviets and the Yanks and Brits in their nice uniforms. and ice cream after dinner, and the batman washing up afterwards everything tickety boo, home fires burning, stout chaps. jolly good what. is not REALLY war is it? If you think otherwise count the German and Soviet dead both military and civilian then come back and tell me about the fun and games the Yanks and the Brits had in WW2.

gus

Pish.the Soviet Army didn't do much but the Weather certainly did. The Russians have always been vastly over-rated as a force. They got their asses kicked in Chechnya of all places..a tiny little State of Muslims.

[Daz Madrigal]

gus2 said:

admin said:

I'm not laughing at Gus - i wish he would bring his unique brand of commonsense back to JSG.

I suppose i would rather be laughed with than at, I mean who wouldn't but both are better than being cried over.
Do you remember when i first joined JSG PM. I had hardly opened my mouth when a right winger without the slightest provocation called me Comrade implying that I have communist sympathies. I retaliated by calling him Gauleiter implying that he had Nazi sympathies and all hell broke loose. The gang of four and their minions printed obscene drawings with my name on called me every derogatory name they could find in the dictionary and you want me to go back for some more of their nasty small minded victimisation knowing they are backed by the mods. puh leeeze!!!

gus

Well its more of an ebb and flow now, at least during the day. Six months ago it was completely racist BNP oriented but now - thanks a little to me but more to others it has more balance.

The debates to soon revert to name calling though...I dont mind that but you've got to make an intelligent point if you are going to call someone otherwise its playground stuff.

Take it on the chin, Gus, and give it em back!

[gus2]

madrigalman said:

gus2 said:

To be quite honest I couldn't give a blue fcuk about the UK.



gus[/quo

Without the Soviets we would be talking German and under Fascist Govt..now you may be happy about that but I am not.

You are right daz ;D
bloody Yanks over sexed and over here as someone famously said. All they did was fook our wimmin, stormed over to Normandy a couple of skirmishes and off to fook the German wimmin. big bucks you see ;D

gus

[Daz Madrigal]

gus2 said:

madrigalman said:

gus2 said:

To be quite honest I couldn't give a blue fcuk about the UK.



gus[/quo

Without the Soviets we would be talking German and under Fascist Govt..now you may be happy about that but I am not.

You are right daz ;D
bloody Yanks over sexed and over here as someone famously said. All they did was fook our wimmin, stormed over to Normandy a couple of skirmishes and off to fook the German wimmin. big bucks you see ;D

gus

I don't blame them to be honest..I'd be the same if they sent over an American Womens Army.



Capture us, Girls, me and Gus are over here!

Of course the Soldiers get nuthin, Gus and as you're aware - or are now - the Russians wiould hardly come running to our aid.

Oh yes and you forgot the same occurring in WWI.

..were the Yanks to blame for that as well, Gus...i bet you've given up frantically googling by now haven't you

[darinka]

gus2 said:

darinka said:

I don't smoke Darinka, so i don't have a lot of interest in the price, but I notice that a lot of men do in the Ukraine, but i never saw a woman smoking on the street. When I asked my girl friend about this she said it is because only prostitutes do this and that is how the men distinguish the chaff from the wheat if that is the right metaphor. I really admire the woman in Ukraine, the poverty, the men's terrible addiction to alcohol. the sheer adversity of living without the benefits that women in the west take for granted, it blew my mind. God bless them all. I will certainly be going back.

gus

once my friend told me that she didnt smoke while she was walking, because her boyfriend told her that prostitutes do it. also i heard it manytimes from other people.
i like my cigarette while i am drinking a coffee. so better in my kitchen in the morning with another "co-smoker".

[gus2]

madrigalman said:

gus2 said:

madrigalman said:

You are right daz ;D
bloody Yanks over sexed and over here as someone famously said. All they did was fook our wimmin, stormed over to Normandy a couple of skirmishes and off to fook the German wimmin. big bucks you see ;D

gus

I don't blame them to be honest..I'd be the same if they sent over an American Womens Army.



Capture us, Girls, me and Gus are over here!

Of course the Soldiers get nuthin, Gus and as you're aware - or are now - the Russians wiould hardly come running to our aid.

Oh yes and you forgot the same occurring in WWI.

..were the Yanks to blame for that as well, Gus...i bet you've given up frantically googling by now haven't you

As far as i can remember the Yanks came into WW1 the same as they came into WW2 i.e when it was time to go home.
Do you not realise that America has never been bombed from the air, as Germany and Eastern Europe were.
They feel the same way about war as i imagine the average New Zealander does, it happens but thank God somewhere else.
Btw I hardly ever google to find information which is maybe the reason i get things wrong, but I do not intend to search frantically as sandy and others on JSG do for info because invariably it spouts the same nonsense that they want to hear.

gus