Post by excoriator on Apr 8, 2021 11:58:37 GMT
A fifth fundamental force has apparently now been discovered.
But I wonder whether all these fundamental forces and particles, which seem to become more numerous the more intensively they are studied, are simply the result of our seeing what we want to see in chaos. A process a bit like seeing a cloud that looks like Charlie Chaplin, or a turnip that bears a startling resemblance to Michael Gove.
It may well be that the fundamental processes that underpin the universe are completely chaotic and that our assumption that logical analysis' success in explaining the macroscopic world extends to the subatomic world too is wrong. We are actually discovering manifestations of our own imagination.
I like Immanuel Kant's idea that our senses not only define what we can see but also how we CAN THINK. He went on to describe the 'Ding an Sich' - the thing itself which he calls the noumenon in which concepts like time and causality as well as many other prized 'universal' ideas are meaningless! It is interesting to see that in order to explain some of the phenomena found by physicists, a number of 'physical laws' have to be abandoned, to be replaced by complex mathematical structures. There are hints to the Ding an Sich in the simple iterated relationship which results in objects of infinite complexity like the Mandelbrot set. (INFINITE complexity. Just imagine that!)
I'm not suggesting at all that research in this area be abandoned. Indeed if physicist want bigger and better accelerators and other gadgets to explore it further, I'm happy to pay a bit more tax to supply them, but I think the possibility that they may be chasing their own arses and finding order in chaos needs to be at least considered. It may be, too, that the tools of logical deduction used to establish the physical laws that so well describe the macroscopic world will have to be abandoned. The 'unscientific method' as opposed to the 'scientific method' perhaps. I can't believe I'm advocating this.
But I wonder whether all these fundamental forces and particles, which seem to become more numerous the more intensively they are studied, are simply the result of our seeing what we want to see in chaos. A process a bit like seeing a cloud that looks like Charlie Chaplin, or a turnip that bears a startling resemblance to Michael Gove.
It may well be that the fundamental processes that underpin the universe are completely chaotic and that our assumption that logical analysis' success in explaining the macroscopic world extends to the subatomic world too is wrong. We are actually discovering manifestations of our own imagination.
I like Immanuel Kant's idea that our senses not only define what we can see but also how we CAN THINK. He went on to describe the 'Ding an Sich' - the thing itself which he calls the noumenon in which concepts like time and causality as well as many other prized 'universal' ideas are meaningless! It is interesting to see that in order to explain some of the phenomena found by physicists, a number of 'physical laws' have to be abandoned, to be replaced by complex mathematical structures. There are hints to the Ding an Sich in the simple iterated relationship which results in objects of infinite complexity like the Mandelbrot set. (INFINITE complexity. Just imagine that!)
I'm not suggesting at all that research in this area be abandoned. Indeed if physicist want bigger and better accelerators and other gadgets to explore it further, I'm happy to pay a bit more tax to supply them, but I think the possibility that they may be chasing their own arses and finding order in chaos needs to be at least considered. It may be, too, that the tools of logical deduction used to establish the physical laws that so well describe the macroscopic world will have to be abandoned. The 'unscientific method' as opposed to the 'scientific method' perhaps. I can't believe I'm advocating this.
