Daz Madrigal
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Post by Daz Madrigal on Aug 22, 2006 10:32:28 GMT
Every playtime - if we'd got fedup of playing football - we'd play a game called "British Bulldog". Its now banned from most schools. Even in the 70'S there were still a few bombed out houses..mainly large Victorian building that the Lab council couldnt be bothered to renovate. They were okay for climbing on the roof, crawling through drains etc..was that dangerous and foolish or just kids doing what theyre supposed to do?
My sisters kids aren't allowed out on their own unsupervised unless theyre playing outside the house due to worries about paedophilia. How come we'd never come across it when we were kids - well speaking personally and needless to say i was very very pretty <<blows kisses> - so whats happened in the meantime. Where were the Paeos in those days? And how come the kids are locked up in the house whilst this 'percived threat' is allowed to roam around. Shouldnt it be the other way round?
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Post by E.D. Wivens on Aug 22, 2006 11:04:29 GMT
Oddly enough, Daz, the HSE might agree with your view to an extent.
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Post by gus2 on Aug 22, 2006 13:57:21 GMT
Every playtime - if we'd got fedup of playing football - we'd play a game called "British Bulldog". Its now banned from most schools. Even in the 70'S there were still a few bombed out houses..mainly large Victorian building that the Lab council couldnt be bothered to renovate. They were okay for climbing on the roof, crawling through drains etc..was that dangerous and foolish or just kids doing what theyre supposed to do? My sisters kids aren't allowed out on their own unsupervised unless theyre playing outside the house due to worries about paedophilia. How come we'd never come across it when we were kids - well speaking personally and needless to say i was very very pretty <<blows kisses> - so whats happened in the meantime. Where were the Paeos in those days? And how come the kids are locked up in the house whilst this 'percived threat' is allowed to roam around. Shouldnt it be the other way round? Funny you should mention that, there was one near us who would give us half a crown to play with his er! todger. guess who was the richest kid on the block, yes you got it it was my best mate. ;D gus
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Post by gus2 on Aug 22, 2006 14:02:03 GMT
I think kids are being wrapped in cotton wool nowadays. I am reading that smoking has been banned by Tom and Jerry. Churchill is no longer seen smoking a cigar (I am not sure about Monika Lewinsky) and it seems children will not be allowed to make models out of empty egg boxes for fear of salmonella. PC gone mad methinks.
gus
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Daz Madrigal
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Post by Daz Madrigal on Aug 22, 2006 14:09:43 GMT
Stop talking sense...its confusing me ;D
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sandywinder
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Post by sandywinder on Aug 22, 2006 14:31:11 GMT
It makes you wonder how long it will be before children will be forbidden from going out onto the street alone until they are 18?
A visit from the Social People/fine/imprisonment may result from any failure to adhere to the rules.
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Post by treelady on Aug 22, 2006 15:46:40 GMT
...They were okay for climbing on the roof, crawling through drains etc..was that dangerous and foolish or just kids doing what they're supposed to do? Both. Kids try to find adventures and don't realize that they are dangerous and foolish. When I think about our parents and how many hours we'd be gone, and the fact that they barely asked us what we'd been doing... I had a GREAT time building forts in the woods and tripping up the neighbor kids with bailing twine trip wire. (this may be hard to believe but it WAS almost invisible when it blended in to the carpe of pine needles) The only time we weren't allowed in the woods was during hunting season, for obvious reasons. But I also lived 5 miles from the nearest town. when I visited a friends house who lived in town, I was told very emphatically that I was not to wander around the town, lest the hooligans might mess with us. I think that it is very difficult to find the balance bewteen protecting your children, giving them the skills to protect themselves, and allowing them to learn from their own experiences. After all, one can't learn without having experiences. One of my teaching moments... Untie the trip wire so you don't forget where it is the next time. ;D
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Post by treelady on Aug 22, 2006 15:49:20 GMT
I think kids are being wrapped in cotton wool nowadays. I am reading that smoking has been banned by Tom and Jerry. Churchill is no longer seen smoking a cigar (I am not sure about Monika Lewinsky) and it seems children will not be allowed to make models out of empty egg boxes for fear of salmonella. PC gone mad methinks. gus LOL. You have reminded me of a picture that I saw in LIFE magazine about 10 years or so ago. They did a history in pictures sort of edition, and it it was a picture of Jacqueline Kennedy, very pregnant... with a cocktail in one hand and a cigarette in the other. My, how times have changed.
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Post by gus2 on Aug 22, 2006 16:33:11 GMT
...They were okay for climbing on the roof, crawling through drains etc..was that dangerous and foolish or just kids doing what they're supposed to do? Both. Kids try to find adventures and don't realize that they are dangerous and foolish. When I think about our parents and how many hours we'd be gone, and the fact that they barely asked us what we'd been doing... I had a GREAT time building forts in the woods and tripping up the neighbor kids with bailing twine trip wire. (this may be hard to believe but it WAS almost invisible when it blended in to the carpe of pine needles) The only time we weren't allowed in the woods was during hunting season, for obvious reasons. But I also lived 5 miles from the nearest town. when I visited a friends house who lived in town, I was told very emphatically that I was not to wander around the town, lest the hooligans might mess with us. I think that it is very difficult to find the balance bewteen protecting your children, giving them the skills to protect themselves, and allowing them to learn from their own experiences. After all, one can't learn without having experiences. One of my teaching moments... Untie the trip wire so you don't forget where it is the next time. ;D Well did the hooligans ever erm; mess with you and if they did I hope you were of age to be messed with ;D gus
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Post by gus2 on Aug 22, 2006 16:35:33 GMT
I think kids are being wrapped in cotton wool nowadays. I am reading that smoking has been banned by Tom and Jerry. Churchill is no longer seen smoking a cigar (I am not sure about Monika Lewinsky) and it seems children will not be allowed to make models out of empty egg boxes for fear of salmonella. PC gone mad methinks. gus LOL. You have reminded me of a picture that I saw in LIFE magazine about 10 years or so ago. They did a history in pictures sort of edition, and it it was a picture of Jacqueline Kennedy, very pregnant... with a cocktail in one hand and a cigarette in the other. My, how times have changed. Btw Did Bill smoke that the cigar, you know the one that Monika <blush> used. gus
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Post by Pink Betty on Aug 22, 2006 19:52:34 GMT
LOL. You have reminded me of a picture that I saw in LIFE magazine about 10 years or so ago. They did a history in pictures sort of edition, and it it was a picture of Jacqueline Kennedy, very pregnant... with a cocktail in one hand and a cigarette in the other. My, how times have changed. My mother in law was told by a Harley Street doc to smoke MORE when she was pregnant (late 50s). She has smoked between 20-40+ a day for the whole of her adult life....I think serving in the war didn't help - they almost made you do it!
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Post by Pink Betty on Aug 22, 2006 19:56:19 GMT
And on the subject of trip wires, beware the time when that gorgeous little boy of yours decides to lay a trap to see if Father Christmas is real
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Daz Madrigal
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Post by Daz Madrigal on Aug 22, 2006 20:02:16 GMT
We've no got a Police Chief telling us that we don't need to lock the back doors anymore. It hasnt occurred to him that most burglars dont try the back door anymore because they take it for granted that it'll be locked anyway.
They should form a comedy duo Blair and Blair. Its got to the stage now where theyre just provoking laughter off everyone.
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Post by treelady on Aug 22, 2006 20:10:31 GMT
And on the subject of trip wires, beware the time when that gorgeous little boy of yours decides to lay a trap to see if Father Christmas is real Oh, dear, you sound like you speak from experience.
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Post by purple joggers on Aug 25, 2006 13:52:55 GMT
Even in the 70'S there were still a few bombed out houses.....They were okay for climbing on the roof, crawling through drains etc..was that dangerous and foolish or just kids doing what theyre supposed to do? My sisters kids aren't allowed out on their own unsupervised unless theyre playing outside the house due to worries about paedophilia. How come we'd never come across it when we were kids ... I brought up my kids allowing them to climb on roofs, crawl though drains. In fact I was often there with them, enjoying it just as much - you can't beat a second childhood! My concerns when the kids spent time on the streets wasn't paedos, because (although I later found out one of the players in my darts team was one) I think their frequency is far overblown by the media. Rather my concern was that the kids wouldn't follow some of their peers into drug-taking, thieving and getting pregnant at 14 years old. The current trend of mollycoddling extends into playgrounds - some American standards require that, for younger children, slides shall be no more than 4 ft high and with slopes of less than 30 degrees. Once is enough on such a slide for any child, it's too hard work on the arms pulling oneself down the slide. No wonder some kids leave the playground and find excitement in mischief instead.
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