Tunes!!!!

[aubrey]

Here's an interesting case study for you, Exco:



Then read this:

The story of The Shaggs

[excoriator]

What can I say, Aubrey?

I have avoided worse. It sounds like much of the rest of pop. I couldn't make out the words, but then having heard pop when I COULD make out the words I am probably not missing much. To be fair, the words could have been a masterpiece I suppose. The story suggests it isn't.

The story of them is sad but really not outstandingly so. Am I surprised it is now being 'revived' and is well on the way to being becoming a cult band? Not really. I suppose cult members are the musical equivalent of Tranmere Rovers (whom God preserve) supporters. There is no logic in taste or lack of it.

I'm glad you are feeling better enough to be banned for supporting the wrong side. Hopefully you will soon be matching my ban from a tough city centre Liverpool pub with a very high level of broken noses per square metre of throng. Be careful listening to the Shaggs though, I am sure that is not conducive to recovery.

[excoriator]

You will maybe know of the music of Thelonius Monk. His piano playing sounds as if every finger has been individually broken and reset badly, he interjects chunks of whole-tone scales randomly, his compositions are bizarre and he SHOULD be unlistenable to. But yet, he has something.

I doubt whether this is true of teh Shaggs though.

[aubrey]

The words are ok.

They're not together any more, as a group anyway. They did 20 mins at a festival one time, with a stand-in drummer, who had to write out the original parts and reproduce them. - deliberately playing out of time is quite difficult. There's a fall song -There would be - where the drums were recorded separately, and deliberately of time. It's quite an effective device. They didn't try to produce it live though.

[excoriator]

Well I'll take your word for it.

I am reminded of Beachcomber, who when he had nothing else to say, used to print extracts from the "List of Huntingdonshire Cabmen" Usually these extracts were followed by comments on the literary features such as the "plangent effect of Dobbs, G.B. followed by Dobbs, G.R".

Don't ask me. I just took his word for it.

[skylark]

Surely with a song called 'Philosophy of the World' the words are important? I caught only ;the ? people want' but confess I didn't hear it to the end,

More interestingly, did their father name their band 'The Shaggs?'

[aubrey]

Nov 23, 2021 8:10:14 GMT skylark said:

Surely with a song called 'Philosophy of the World' the words are important? I caught only ;the ? people want' but confess I didn't hear it to the end,

More interestingly, did their father name their band 'The Shaggs?'

I assume he did, but it doesn't have the same meaning as it does here; I don't know what it does mean; probably it was chosen for the sound.

The film The Spy who shagged Me seems to have been thought of as ok; and The Simpsons once had someone out of U2 calling someone a wanker, which I'm pretty sure wouldn't have passed if the US gave the word the same meaning or strength as we do.

I'm sorry for having put this really badly; the words haven't been falling right this evening.