Daz Madrigal
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Post by Daz Madrigal on May 19, 2007 13:39:38 GMT
////Aren't crucial medical decisions potentially hazardous, Piccione./// Yes, but there is ‘potentially hazardous’ and ‘almost certainly fatal’. Btw.... [<< There are quite a few people who base crucial life -and even medical- decisions on astrology >>] ....reads: ‘crucial life decision, and medical decision’ Better....? What do /you/ suggest ‘medical astrology’ stands for? To advice the consultant which of the nurses on the ward is the best shag? ////Away with the fairies is a most commonly used term, even today…//// Oh /really/ is it? Gosh – I didn’t know that! Hmmm – that only leaves the ‘rusty saw’ then - in which case you should consider changing your doc....or rely on medical astrology instead, and hope for the best.... ////Again..'crucial medical decisions'..what are you thinking of?. "Scalpel, Nurse!" "But its a full Moon, Doctor?" "Oh forget it then, we'll sew him up and do it next week instead"//// ;D Y’know you’re wasting your talents on this board. You should be writing scripts for Holby City - or whatever the latest hospital cr@p TV is called..... Anyway, I’m off to the pub, and ‘away with the fairies’....or the bar maids, rather.... ;D Bearing in mind the hangover I won't tax the brain too much - Gordon Browns perfectly capable of doing that. He's taxed everything else..incl. my patience. We're in agreement that Astrology isn't particularly hazardous despite the wild imaginings of certain scientists. I mention Dawkins btw. because he has some bee frantically buzzing around in his bonnet which provides further evidence of his fiery evangelism. He might impress the aforementioned Dirk but then I didn't prey with Billy Graham in front of 100,000 people at.... ..WEMBLEY! See how everything pieces together. Really everyones entitled to their opinion as long as 'as Dirk sagely suggests in his blog..'it doesn't impinge in anyone else'. At this stage we must remind the reader that no-one of 'forcing' the unwilling to read their 'stars' or to consult the Astrologer. The Astrolger does NOT parade around the streets with a huge net, thus dragging - usually women - into his/her ..cobwebbed grotto or Inner Sanctum. Having said that..I think anyone who actively works as an Astrologer is a bit odd. I'd avoid them personally because I'm against the idea of charging money or making a living out of it. The few exceptions are those that have written books that are respected or have been so well written that the author goes on lecture tours. 'The Cosmic Loom' and 'Real Astrology Applied' being perhaps the fewexceptions that bring some new insights rather than merely repeat whats already known. Its all a question of perception. Socialism appeals to some people and is the Ideal. Communism to others and is an Ideal even more unreal than arriving at thee Pearly Gates (but again thats MY perception). Capitalism likewise. Global Warming? Well the weight of evidence is clearly on the scientists side. Does this mean they are undoubtedly correct. I'm not sure anyone can say with 100% certainty. Therefore surely anyone making the Anti-GW case is doomed to failure, Well not at all really. It depends on the opposition and it was obvious from the start that Sandy had the 'perception' that there was 'no doubt whatsoever'. He was 'almost' correct. Sadly he could be picked off with consummate ease by a true pro in moi. In essence I figured that although I know little about the science I could still win the argument (whilst also reading some interesting literature on the matter). Its no lose debate because everytime the Bonios, Gores and Sandy'S jump in a car or taxi or board an airplane the damning responce is 'Oy you..out of the car you hypocrite!.The real Ace up the Sleeve lies in the slight problem of Sandys voting for a Party whose main plank apart from hating all things European ( but still flying for holidays there!) lay in the damning fact that they think Global Warming is bunkum and something to be totally ignored. This is bad news for Sandy because he's spent the last decade shouting '"VOTE UKIP!" Its a dreadful clanger, Sandy, and even moreso when you've been given a strong hand whilst I have mere bluff.
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Post by sandywinder on May 20, 2007 7:19:20 GMT
So join UKIP then Daz. They have ALL the policies you want.
So what apart, your flagrant hypocrisy, is keeping you with the Tories?
I hear no response to that. I wonder why?
As for UKIP, Global Warming is hardly their main, secondary or even tertiary proiority.
What is the Tories main priority? It appears they haven't bothered to tell anybody about that yet.
But then Cameron has only been their leader for about 12 months.
I have never seen a party so emasculated since Labour were after Blair took over. And did he change his policies to fit the party when he got in? Did he bow locks.
So why vote for another Labour/Tory party under David Cameron?
Hello?
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Daz Madrigal
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Post by Daz Madrigal on May 20, 2007 13:32:58 GMT
Well the stark difference which you obviously know about since you've mentioned it often enough before now - when it seem to have escaped thy mind - is that there are a large number of the party who aren't at all keen on Davie Boys Compassionate Consevatism. You being one of them oddly enough. Take that!
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Post by piccione on May 20, 2007 22:30:43 GMT
////Bearing in mind the hangover I won't tax the brain too much…////
Well I’ll be kind in return - since I suppose you had to drown your sorrows after the FA Cup final.... ;D
If its any consolation, I gave up supporting Chelsea when Emmanuel Petit left. <mmmm....sigh>
Yes, I know, I got my priorities right. And I make bloody dam/n sure of that.
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Post by sandywinder on May 21, 2007 7:51:41 GMT
Well the stark difference which you obviously know about since you've mentioned it often enough before now - when it seem to have escaped thy mind - is that there are a large number of the party who aren't at all keen on Davie Boys Compassionate Consevatism. You being one of them oddly enough. Take that! Compassionate my backside. Cameron was the one who drew up Howard's manifesto. He's an out and out chancer just like Tony Blair. He hasn't got two policies to rub together and he's already rubbing up his party member's the wrong way.
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Daz Madrigal
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Post by Daz Madrigal on May 23, 2007 10:59:21 GMT
He's just taken the bold step of refusing to bring back any old fashioned thoughts on the 11+, Sandy.
Anyway he must be doing something right because the ravings from the cheese can be heard from here. They're not happy at all.
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Post by sandywinder on May 24, 2007 8:54:47 GMT
He's just taken the bold step of refusing to bring back any old fashioned thoughts on the 11+, Sandy. Anyway he must be doing something right because the ravings from the cheese can be heard from here. They're not happy at all. This is like saying we mustn't trade with Germans because they once had Adolf Hitler leading them. There is nothing wrong with grammar schools. The problem was one of immobility and selection. Bright kids who failed to get there should have had the chance to get there in later years. Similarly those that didn't show any progress or interests at GSs should have been demoted. And the amount of funding should be the SAME for both GSs and comps, techs or secondary schools. What you and Dave are saying is that children of all kinds of ability should be lumped together. That's the socialist/communist way. How many bad apples does it take to spoil the barrel?
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Daz Madrigal
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Post by Daz Madrigal on May 24, 2007 10:08:28 GMT
What if some 11 yr olds having a bad day. Lets say he's got hay fever or a bad cold.
Should his entire life be predicated and mapped out on the one day - yes or no?
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Post by sandywinder on May 24, 2007 10:25:44 GMT
What if some 11 yr olds having a bad day. Lets say he's got hay fever or a bad cold. Should his entire life be predicated and mapped out on the one day - yes or no? I think there is some allowance made for sickness. But the same can be said of any examination. It is no reason never to have them. We might just as well give everybody passes at everything. A communist utopia. And you are not listening. Just because pupils fail the 11+ does not mean they have to be deprived of GS education in the future if they show some ability and drive.
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Daz Madrigal
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Post by Daz Madrigal on May 24, 2007 10:33:48 GMT
You must like squirming on the hook, Sandy so I'll ask the question yet again a la Jeremy Paxman.
Should a childs entire life be predicated and mapped out on the one day - yes or no?
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Post by motorist on May 24, 2007 11:43:20 GMT
You must like squirming on the hook, Sandy so I'll ask the question yet again a la Jeremy Paxman. Should a childs entire life be predicated and mapped out on the one day - yes or no?I know you're asking Sandy, but from me you will get a resounding NOOOOOO!!!! If anything, it would be better to make the plan based on, say, the whole of the child's previous year to get a better idea of their aptitudes! Maybe short tests throughout the year instead of the big exam at the end
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Post by sandywinder on May 25, 2007 12:54:49 GMT
You must like squirming on the hook, Sandy so I'll ask the question yet again a la Jeremy Paxman. Should a childs entire life be predicated and mapped out on the one day - yes or no?I know you're asking Sandy, but from me you will get a resounding NOOOOOO!!!! If anything, it would be better to make the plan based on, say, the whole of the child's previous year to get a better idea of their aptitudes! Maybe short tests throughout the year instead of the big exam at the end Sounds OK to me but even so there should be a means of catering for late developers via promotion and relegation. What Daz and Cameron want is a one size fits all education system. So the clever kids get dumbed down to the level of the dumbest. Unless they can afford private education of course - like most Tory and Labour politicians.
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