Daz Madrigal
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Post by Daz Madrigal on Aug 15, 2006 20:18:23 GMT
Well I now recall the name Marv from the JSG forum and he'll do as the token member of the Loony Left Brigade on the presumption that there can't be that many Marvins and because I couldn't recall the precise name the day prior to his arrival. I'm afraid Gus just isn't loony enough but he makes up for it in other departments.
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Post by gus2 on Aug 16, 2006 11:55:57 GMT
Well I now recall the name Marv from the JSG forum and he'll do as the token member of the Loony Left Brigade on the presumption that there can't be that many Marvins and because I couldn't recall the precise name the day prior to his arrival. I'm afraid Gus just isn't loony enough but he makes up for it in other departments. It's true i maybe left wing but I am not of the loony left. I am a firm believer in Nationalisation for ALL public services. I am a believer in massive cut backs in our armed services. I am a believer in fixed prices for essential goods. what could be loony about that? gus
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Post by Pink Betty on Aug 16, 2006 12:00:33 GMT
I am a firm believer in Nationalisation for ALL public services. I am a believer in massive cut backs in our armed services. I am a believer in fixed prices for essential goods. what could be loony about that? gus absolutely nothing...and the sooner the better
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sandywinder
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Post by sandywinder on Aug 16, 2006 13:53:47 GMT
Well I now recall the name Marv from the JSG forum and he'll do as the token member of the Loony Left Brigade on the presumption that there can't be that many Marvins and because I couldn't recall the precise name the day prior to his arrival. I'm afraid Gus just isn't loony enough but he makes up for it in other departments. It's true i maybe left wing but I am not of the loony left. I am a firm believer in Nationalisation for ALL public services. I am a believer in massive cut backs in our armed services. I am a believer in fixed prices for essential goods. what could be loony about that? gus 1. Nationalistaion means inefficiency, incompetence and a drain on the taxpayer having to pay for it all, instead of letting professionals do the job who make profits, a good chunk of which goes back to the Chancellor to ease the tax burden. 2. You believe that Britain should be vulnerable to attack from any country without being able to defend ourselves. 3. How can you have fixed price for things like petrol, gas, electricity? Seeing as you have nationalised all the industries who is going to pay for it? Not the government - it can't afford to. Not the industries - they are already in huge debt. Not the taxpayer - they have already been stung by huge tax rises to pay for incompetent industries. Or are you another believer in money trees? LOONY!
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Post by gus2 on Aug 17, 2006 7:46:07 GMT
It's true i maybe left wing but I am not of the loony left. I am a firm believer in Nationalisation for ALL public services. I am a believer in massive cut backs in our armed services. I am a believer in fixed prices for essential goods. what could be loony about that? gus 1. Nationalistaion means inefficiency, incompetence and a drain on the taxpayer having to pay for it all, instead of letting professionals do the job who make profits, a good chunk of which goes back to the Chancellor to ease the tax burden. 2. You believe that Britain should be vulnerable to attack from any country without being able to defend ourselves. 3. How can you have fixed price for things like petrol, gas, electricity? Seeing as you have nationalised all the industries who is going to pay for it? Not the government - it can't afford to. Not the industries - they are already in huge debt. Not the taxpayer - they have already been stung by huge tax rises to pay for incompetent industries. Or are you another believer in money trees? LOONY! Normaly I wouldn't read the Financial Times if you threatened to pull my finger nails out unless I did so.But waiting yesterday at Franz Joseph Strauss airport I had read all the German papers and it was the only one left. In the advice column ( yes, but it is not for lonely or broken hearts it is more for the hard hearted average business man) So a business man wrote something like this. " I was promoted over my friend a few years ago and now I am his boss. Head office has decided to downsize and I have to lay off one worker from my office. My friend has not been pulling his weight lately and I know he has personal problems at home. He is the obvious choice but he is my friend. What shall I do?" the answer from a Lucy someome or other was of course "sack him" I suspect Lucy is British or the answer would have been "fire him" way to go Lucy. gus
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Post by gus2 on Aug 17, 2006 7:52:37 GMT
1. Nationalistaion means inefficiency, incompetence and a drain on the taxpayer having to pay for it all, instead of letting professionals do the job who make profits, a good chunk of which goes back to the Chancellor to ease the tax burden. 2. You believe that Britain should be vulnerable to attack from any country without being able to defend ourselves. 3. How can you have fixed price for things like petrol, gas, electricity? Seeing as you have nationalised all the industries who is going to pay for it? Not the government - it can't afford to. Not the industries - they are already in huge debt. Not the taxpayer - they have already been stung by huge tax rises to pay for incompetent industries. Or are you another believer in money trees? LOONY! Normaly I wouldn't read the Financial Times if you threatened to pull my finger nails out unless I did so.But waiting yesterday at Franz Joseph Strauss airport I had read all the German papers and it was the only one left. In the advice column ( yes, but it is not for lonely or broken hearts it is more for the hard hearted average business man) So a business man wrote something like this. " I was promoted over my friend a few years ago and now I am his boss. Head office has decided to downsize and I have to lay off one worker from my office. My friend has not been pulling his weight lately and I know he has personal problems at home. He is the obvious choice but he is my friend. What shall I do?" the answer from a Lucy someome or other was of course "sack him" I suspect Lucy is British or the answer would have been "fire him" way to go Lucy. gus After overcoming a desire to set fire to the newspaper I read on and i am glad i did so. It seems that Walmart are showing a loss for the first time in ten years because of their pull out in Germany. Thats the way, go to the wall walmart and take a few more of the blood sucking companies with you. gus
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mimi
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Post by mimi on Aug 17, 2006 8:46:13 GMT
Gus, you may personally dislike the Financial Times and I understand why. However, don't be blinded by prejudice: its sections on music and opera reviews, theatre, and cultural events are excellent and respected by people (like me) who don't understand economics and finance. Perhaps you are not interested in these things either, in which case feel free to condemn the paper, but your dislike and lack of interest doesn't make it a bad paper. I notice that you enjoyed the report about Wal-Mart failing in Germany but that's because it's what you want to hear.
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sandywinder
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Post by sandywinder on Aug 17, 2006 10:20:20 GMT
1. Nationalistaion means inefficiency, incompetence and a drain on the taxpayer having to pay for it all, instead of letting professionals do the job who make profits, a good chunk of which goes back to the Chancellor to ease the tax burden. 2. You believe that Britain should be vulnerable to attack from any country without being able to defend ourselves. 3. How can you have fixed price for things like petrol, gas, electricity? Seeing as you have nationalised all the industries who is going to pay for it? Not the government - it can't afford to. Not the industries - they are already in huge debt. Not the taxpayer - they have already been stung by huge tax rises to pay for incompetent industries. Or are you another believer in money trees? LOONY! Normaly I wouldn't read the Financial Times if you threatened to pull my finger nails out unless I did so. gus Ve haf vays ov making you read der Mail.
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sandywinder
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Post by sandywinder on Aug 17, 2006 10:23:05 GMT
Gus, you may personally dislike the Financial Times and I understand why. However, don't be blinded by prejudice: its sections on music and opera reviews, theatre, and cultural events are excellent and respected by people (like me) who don't understand economics and finance. Perhaps you are not interested in these things either, in which case feel free to condemn the paper, but your dislike and lack of interest doesn't make it a bad paper. I notice that you enjoyed the report about Wal-Mart failing in Germany but that's because it's what you want to hear. And I wonder if he give a second's thought for what happened to the 'sacked' workers? Nah!
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Post by gus2 on Aug 17, 2006 13:41:57 GMT
Gus, you may personally dislike the Financial Times and I understand why. However, don't be blinded by prejudice: its sections on music and opera reviews, theatre, and cultural events are excellent and respected by people (like me) who don't understand economics and finance. Perhaps you are not interested in these things either, in which case feel free to condemn the paper, but your dislike and lack of interest doesn't make it a bad paper. I notice that you enjoyed the report about Wal-Mart failing in Germany but that's because it's what you want to hear. Well I enjoyed the hypocrisy so much i may subscribe. It gave me the best laugh i had all day. gus
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Post by gus2 on Aug 17, 2006 13:43:22 GMT
Normaly I wouldn't read the Financial Times if you threatened to pull my finger nails out unless I did so. gus Ve haf vays ov making you read der Mail. Ve haf vays ov viping our a..... setting fire to it. gus
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Post by gus2 on Aug 17, 2006 13:49:13 GMT
Gus, you may personally dislike the Financial Times and I understand why. However, don't be blinded by prejudice: its sections on music and opera reviews, theatre, and cultural events are excellent and respected by people (like me) who don't understand economics and finance. Perhaps you are not interested in these things either, in which case feel free to condemn the paper, but your dislike and lack of interest doesn't make it a bad paper. I notice that you enjoyed the report about Wal-Mart failing in Germany but that's because it's what you want to hear. And I wonder if he give a second's thought for what happened to the 'sacked' workers? Nah! I gave more than a second thought to it i gave it a third and I came up with "the right to work" but you are not going to get this in a Capitalist economy and certainly no mention in of it in the FT. Btw. I wouldnt be at all surprised if the company in question made squillions in profits. Trebles all round. gus
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sandywinder
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Post by sandywinder on Aug 18, 2006 10:05:41 GMT
Why does your 'right to work' also mean a right to deny a company to choose who works for it?
It seems that when a company make a profits is it bound to be evil and when it makes a loss it is also evil. I suppose if it does neither it will be ... evil as well. But when an incompetently run state organisation like the NHS or the Home Office or the Tax Credit system or the CSA makes a complete hash of things it is perfectly acceptable.
I have been waiting for well over a month now for the Tax Credit idiots to sort out my annual notice from last year. Until it does I can not claim any EMA allowance for my son's college education, so he will get less money than he is entitled to.
Now I will not kid you that I am down to my last 20p but there must be tens of thousands of people in this country who are much worse off than me in the same predicament and I can imagine the anguish they must be going through. But does anybody in New Labour give a d**n? Do they bollocks. And they don't give a bollocks because it is in the public sector. And these people and me can do absolutely nothing about it. You see you can't choose which company will do your Tax Credits, can you?
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sandywinder
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Post by sandywinder on Aug 18, 2006 10:07:42 GMT
Funny you can say bollocks but you can't say d**n.
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Post by gus2 on Aug 18, 2006 10:13:23 GMT
Funny you can say bollocks but you can't say d**n. 'tis the worst thing that can happen to you apart from being a right wing nut and that is to be damned. gus
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