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Post by gus2 on Aug 18, 2006 10:33:04 GMT
Why does your 'right to work' also mean a right to deny a company to choose who works for it? It seems that when a company make a profits is it bound to be evil and when it makes a loss it is also evil. I suppose if it does neither it will be ... evil as well. But when an incompetently run state organisation like the NHS or the Home Office or the Tax Credit system or the CSA makes a complete hash of things it is perfectly acceptable. I have been waiting for well over a month now for the Tax Credit idiots to sort out my annual notice from last year. Until it does I can not claim any EMA allowance for my son's college education, so he will get less money than he is entitled to. Now I will not kid you that I am down to my last 20p but there must be tens of thousands of people in this country who are much worse off than me in the same predicament and I can imagine the anguish they must be going through. But does anybody in New Labour give a d**n? Do they bollocks. And they don't give a bollocks because it is in the public sector. And these people and me can do absolutely nothing about it. You see you can't choose which company will do your Tax Credits, can you? The right to work means exactly that. Wether it is a private company or a nationalised one is neither here nor there. If a private company in a world where one has the right to work trys to lay off someone they will have to have a watertight reason for doing so. and not as usually is the case that their profits will not suffer and or the chairman doesn't get his new Ferrari. The problem with you sandy is that you seem to think that the NHS is a public institution, do you not know that it is being privatised  Take the PC named "hospital bedside service provider" the companies that provide these services charge £3.50 per day for TV and 10 pence a minute for outgoing calls and a breathtaking whopping 49pence a minute for incoming calls. Mobile phones have been banned so if your relatives are poor you can only gaze in envy at your affluent neighbour blabbing away on the telephone and commenting on Big Brother on TV, yes sandy it is indeed a Brave New World. gus |
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Post by mathilde on Aug 18, 2006 10:58:57 GMT
Funny you can say bollocks but you can't say d**n. 'tis the worst thing that can happen to you apart from being a right wing nut and that is to be d**ned. gus A right wing-nut! Is Sandy Prince Charles then?  |
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Post by sandywinder on Aug 18, 2006 11:02:26 GMT
And who is doing all this privatisation of the NHS?
I have nothing against privatisation of services provided it is done for the benefit of both the patient and the tax-payer.
But with New Labour we have two evils. We have the customary nationalised incompetence and they have introduced a new -brand of private incompetence.
This includes allowing these companies to shelter any tax liabilities in Channel Island tax havens. So they don't even pay TAX on the exhorbitant profits they make.
And have you ever asked yourself why Labour should change their polices on privatisation 180 degrees?
It doesn't take much to figure this out.
Firstly the existing service is crap (as Prescott would say)
Secondly, Blair and Co have crony friends who stand to make a fortune.
And finally Gordon Brown can treat all these PFIs as being outside the government. So they don't appear when Brown has to lie to the country how the economy is doing and how much TRUE debt it has.
In short it is a SCAM of Gordon Brown's.
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Post by Pink Betty on Aug 18, 2006 11:05:06 GMT
interesting imagary   it works well aurally |
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Post by sandywinder on Aug 18, 2006 11:05:13 GMT
'tis the worst thing that can happen to you apart from being a right wing nut and that is to be d**ned. gus A right wing-nut! Is Sandy Prince Charles then? No the worst thing that can happen to you is to be indoctrinated with complete and utter nonsense. I reckon Gus must have been brought up in a Communist Madrassa. |
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Post by Pink Betty on Aug 18, 2006 11:08:16 GMT
And who is doing all this privatisation of the NHS? I have nothing against privatisation of services provided it is done for the benefit of both the patient and the tax-payer. But with New Labour we have two evils. We have the customary nationalised incompetence and they have introduced a new -brand of private incompetence. This includes allowing these companies to shelter any tax liabilities in Channel Island tax havens. So they don't even pay TAX on the exhorbitant profits they make. And have you ever asked yourself why Labour should change their polices on privatisation 180 degrees? It doesn't take much to figure this out. Firstly the existing service is cr ap (as Prescott would say) Secondly, Blair and Co have crony friends who stand to make a fortune. And finally Gordon Brown can treat all these PFIs as being outside the government. So they don't appear when Brown has to lie to the country how the economy is doing and how much TRUE debt it has. In short it is a SCAM of Gordon Brown's. This government is sadly wanting, but would any of the others handle things so much better? I am disenchanted with the lot of them. |
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Post by sandywinder on Aug 18, 2006 11:09:40 GMT
Yeah me too.
A bunch of self-interested *****s.
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Post by gus2 on Aug 18, 2006 11:13:01 GMT
A right wing-nut! Is Sandy Prince Charles then? No the worst thing that can happen to you is to be indoctrinated with complete and utter nonsense. I reckon Gus must have been brought up in a Communist Madrassa. I can tell you this I have been hospitalised in West Berlin and in East Berlin and the competence of the staff was in both cases excellent although it would be unfair not to mention that the food was better in the West. But at no time was i expected to pay over the odds for watching TV and telephoning. Although of course you won't admit it that this is privitisation at it's most greediest i,e when it has you by the short and curly's. gus |
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Post by Pink Betty on Aug 18, 2006 11:19:36 GMT
But at no time was i expected to pay over the odds for watching TV and telephoning. Although of course you won't admit it that this is privitisation at it's most greediest i,e when it has you by the short and curly's. gus couldn't agree more. filthy lucre really is the root of all evil |
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Post by sandywinder on Aug 19, 2006 9:36:31 GMT
No the worst thing that can happen to you is to be indoctrinated with complete and utter nonsense. I reckon Gus must have been brought up in a Communist Madrassa. I can tell you this I have been hospitalised in West Berlin and in East Berlin and the competence of the staff was in both cases excellent although it would be unfair not to mention that the food was better in the West. But at no time was i expected to pay over the odds for watching TV and telephoning. Although of course you won't admit it that this is privitisation at it's most greediest i,e when it has you by the short and curly's. gus So providing people with a CHOICE of whether to use an optional service is privatisation at its greediest, is it? Exactly who is forcing people to use phones, TVs,etc in hospitals? Who is forcing people to use mobile phones? There was a time when such things did not exist and there was NO choice at all. Clearly in your jaded head CHOICE itself is evil. Although when you want something for your own personal use, it is another matter entirely. This is the hypocritical bulls*it we have come know and love of Gus. Not all of us prefer to live like slaves of a government or like birds in a cage. |
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