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Post by gus2 on Sept 19, 2006 21:37:24 GMT
to paraphrase Billie Holliday who sang Strange Fruit. The Ramsgate- Ostend ferries run by Transeurope are mainly for freight but a few passengers with cars are allowed except on the night ferry. This I believe is something that this and other companies have been forced to do to enable them to obtain the licence to operate on the North sea and Channel ferries. The fact is that passengers not to put to fine a point on it are a bloody nuisance and the companies would prefer freight, which not only pays better it doesn't complain. On the crossing I took yesterday they took 20 cars ( I counted them) 7 with Polish registration. 1 with Belarusia plates and the rest Holland, Belgium German and English. I know that sandy will be down on his knees praying to the god of Capitalism when I tell him that all their ships are registerd in Limasol and their HQ is in Nassau in the Bahamas. Great tax avoiders these guys.
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Post by sandywinder on Sept 20, 2006 9:44:36 GMT
And the reason they go to Nassau, etc? To avoid paying rip-off taxes by slimy, lying governments who waste the money they get on employing toadies and crooks to run the public sector.
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Post by gus2 on Sept 20, 2006 15:37:04 GMT
And the reason they go to Nassau, etc? To avoid paying rip-off taxes by slimy, lying governments who waste the money they get on employing toadies and crooks to run the public sector. Yeah right sandy. I didn't think even you could come up with such bollox, I stand to be corrected. What is true though is that Labour and Tory have turned a blind eye to the "legal" tax dodgers. Here are companies using British ports, paying no taxes,employing non union usually also non British seaman and sandy and the Government think " how wonderful they are" This kind of Capitalist greed is not confined only to shipping companies btw it runs through the whole sorry free market scam. gus
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Post by sandywinder on Sept 21, 2006 8:23:44 GMT
And the reason they go to Nassau, etc? To avoid paying rip-off taxes by slimy, lying governments who waste the money they get on employing toadies and crooks to run the public sector. Yeah right sandy. I didn't think even you could come up with such bollox, I stand to be corrected. What is true though is that Labour and Tory have turned a blind eye to the "legal" tax dodgers. Here are companies using British ports, paying no taxes,employing non union usually also non British seaman and sandy and the Government think " how wonderful they are" This kind of Capitalist greed is not confined only to shipping companies btw it runs through the whole sorry free market scam. gus Greed also runs through the whole State sector as well, if only you would have the intelligence to think about it. People are basically greedy and selfish. Only a complete ass would think that people who work in the private sector are any different from those in the public. It is completely illogical to think otherwise. The difference between the two is that in the private sector, a half-competent government would be able to put a stop to these scams and prosecute the criminals, who would be booted out of their cushy jobs by the shareholders, but in the public sector the same people do not even lose their jobs. Look at Aberfan in which over a hundred kids were killed and nobody was even made to resign let alone be prosecuted. And this was when we had the National Coal Board. Lately we have had the De Menezes case in which a man was shot on the tube for being a bit foreign. Not only has nobody lost their job but the woman in charge of it has been PROMOTED. The same happened over the fiasco of Iraq and WMD. The Scarlett fellow in charge of that got a promotion after it had all blown over. But that's the state for you, where incompetence, negligence and fraud are REWARDED.
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Post by gus2 on Sept 21, 2006 20:31:21 GMT
Yeah right sandy. I didn't think even you could come up with such bollox, I stand to be corrected. What is true though is that Labour and Tory have turned a blind eye to the "legal" tax dodgers. Here are companies using British ports, paying no taxes,employing non union usually also non British seaman and sandy and the Government think " how wonderful they are" This kind of Capitalist greed is not confined only to shipping companies btw it runs through the whole sorry free market scam. gus Greed also runs through the whole State sector as well, if only you would have the intelligence to think about it. People are basically greedy and selfish. Only a complete ass would think that people who work in the private sector are any different from those in the public. It is completely illogical to think otherwise. The difference between the two is that in the private sector, a half-competent government would be able to put a stop to these scams and prosecute the criminals, who would be booted out of their cushy jobs by the shareholders, but in the public sector the same people do not even lose their jobs. Look at Aberfan in which over a hundred kids were killed and nobody was even made to resign let alone be prosecuted. And this was when we had the National Coal Board. Lately we have had the De Menezes case in which a man was shot on the tube for being a bit foreign. Not only has nobody lost their job but the woman in charge of it has been PROMOTED. The same happened over the fiasco of Iraq and WMD. The Scarlett fellow in charge of that got a promotion after it had all blown over. But that's the state for you, where incompetence, negligence and fraud are REWARDED. What you can't see is that when Nationalisation is there, and there are any fook ups at least one can see who made them and if there is enough public outcry they will be ousted. Not so in the private sector where the old school tie and the gentlemens clubs make sure no one hears of it , until like Enron the shite hit's the fan gus
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Post by Pink Betty on Sept 21, 2006 20:37:07 GMT
What you can't see is that when Nationalisation is there, and there are any fook ups at least one can see who made them and if there is enough public outcry they will be ousted. Not so in the private sector where the old school tie and the gentlemens clubs make sure no one hears of it , until like Enron the shite hit's the fan gus Gus greedy and corrupt people are greedy and corrupt people whatever background they come from. Old school tie and Gents Clubs are no different from scratch my back and I'll scratch yours and the unions/local councils living it up. It's all the same.
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Post by Excos mate on Sept 21, 2006 20:59:20 GMT
The worst possible crime you can commit is to steal your own workers pension money and use it for your own gain and that was done by left wing Socialist and Communist sympathiser, Robert Maxwell.
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Post by gus2 on Sept 21, 2006 21:15:22 GMT
The worst possible crime you can commit is to steal your own workers pension money and use it for your own gain and that was done by left wing Socialist and Communist sympathiser, Robert Maxwell. he was no more a Communist or so Socialist than Hitler was. He was anything that gave him more power and more money. Socialist my arse. gus
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Post by luxury yacht on Sept 21, 2006 21:27:18 GMT
I've read the old rogues biography ;D
Red being the operative word, god knows who he got the name Robert Maxwell, his real name was virtually impossible to pronounce.
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Post by Pink Betty on Sept 21, 2006 21:32:08 GMT
Hoch now Daz me lad...it wasn't so hard.
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Post by the night nursie on Sept 21, 2006 22:26:52 GMT
Sums it up, I think.
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Post by Myster Riven on Sept 21, 2006 22:32:47 GMT
red x picture?
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Post by bemused billy on Sept 21, 2006 22:38:10 GMT
Well I can see it..you're too far away in Malta.
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Post by Pink Betty on Sept 21, 2006 22:41:08 GMT
i too am unable....
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Post by Nathan deGargoyle on Sept 22, 2006 6:53:46 GMT
Try right clicking on the red cross (or if it says [image] on there) and select view image.
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