sandywinder
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Post by sandywinder on Sept 2, 2006 6:33:04 GMT
It seems now the NHS are going to use taxpayers money to pay for people to be treated with very expensive water.
Is this a good idea?
Surely it would be cheaper to send them to church to pray or go to the bottom of their garden and ask the fairies for help?
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Post by Pink Betty on Sept 2, 2006 9:11:50 GMT
I know several people who swear by homeopathy. They seem to be far healthier. I'd probably give it a go if I did the doctor thing.
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Post by Daz Madrigal on Sept 2, 2006 12:00:14 GMT
Its easily 'testable' which is what scientists think of as some sort of lodestone of truth. Then they get a load of differing results which simply adds to the confusion.
The same goes for most other substances tested whether it be wine, tea or coffee. Its merely a way of keeping a job and getting well paid by taxpayers whilst the Govt hand out grants to them lke confetti.
Bah humbug - to science not necessarily homeopathic medicnes although I dont personally give them much credence re. serious illnesses. I took some for hayfever and for whatever reason - possibly coincidence - I never suffered from it again. Who knows?
Not me, you, Sandy and certainly not the scientific fraternity.
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Post by sandywinder on Sept 2, 2006 14:55:48 GMT
I am not saying people should not consult homeopaths if they wish or buy their quack medicines but I do not think it should be available on the NHS.
To date there is no evidence in properly monitored tests that any of these medicines work any better than placebos for ANY ailment. You are just as likely to get better from waiting for a week or so than using a homeopathic remedy in which will get you better in a week or so. It appears to be the power of the mind which helps people rather than the medicine. I reckon people feel better after visiting a homeopath, not from any medicine but from having someone wanting to listen to your troubles for once. This you don't get with GPs, who only want to get you out the door as quick as they can and see the next patient, so they give you antibiotics (or rather used to) for which they sometimes get bonuses for distributing.
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Post by Daz Madrigal on Sept 4, 2006 10:46:13 GMT
There's some evidence that St.Johns Wort has an effect although thats herbal rather than homeopathic and many of the most effective medical drugs are merely stolen from mediaeval herbalists. Digitalis being a good example.
I wouldn't be too dismissive as the very same argument about the 'placebo effect' was used about acupuncture and its now standard practice in all hospitals.
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Post by Pink Betty on Sept 4, 2006 10:48:56 GMT
Ok then Daz, what can i go and get from my local Holland & Barrett that will take the edge of this paralizing fear I am in the grip of re this trial?
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Post by Daz Madrigal on Sept 4, 2006 10:55:15 GMT
Have tried Ketamine or horse tranquillers...might have the slight side effect of slurring words.
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Post by Pink Betty on Sept 4, 2006 10:57:00 GMT
That suggestion is not sensible or helpful Daz!
I have been taking valarian for a bit - but it seems to do nothing and smells foul.
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Post by Daz Madrigal on Sept 4, 2006 11:02:38 GMT
hmm the best solution would be to take a mild sleeping tablet with just one glass on wine and you'll be relaxed..or at least i would.
either that or valium..whatever you can blag off someone
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Post by Pink Betty on Sept 4, 2006 11:27:04 GMT
I think reeking of booze would make my testimony null and void don't you? I asked my Judgey next door neighbour about taking valium - he advised strongly against it . And it's getting a bit late in the day to blag anything off anyone...though I may have some years old valium left over from the original mr p's fear of flying....will it kill me?
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Post by Daz Madrigal on Sept 4, 2006 12:18:29 GMT
I think reeking of booze would make my testimony null and void don't you? I asked my Judgey next door neighbour about taking valium - he advised strongly against it . And it's getting a bit late in the day to blag anything off anyone...though I may have some years old valium left over from the original mr p's fear of flying....will it kill me? Well vodka and tonic should rectify that. 1 valium wont kill anyone..not for a few days testimony anyway..or one day..how long is this ordeal going on. Will it be in the papers << trys to curb enthusiasm and sound sympathetic >>
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Post by sandywinder on Sept 5, 2006 10:33:15 GMT
PM don't mix alcohol with valium or any other drug.
Valerian has been used for anxiety but can itself create anxiety. My advice would be to take chamomile tea for now. And only take the valium before the trial and only at the dose stated on the bottle.
That should give you the confidence you need.
Forget homeopathy but don't forget herbal drugs. St Johns' wort can be used for fighting depression, I believe, but this has not to be overused either.
As for acupunture the jury is still out. So if you think it helps OK but I doubt if it is any use for anxiety.
You should first visit your GP though and ask him to help you.
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Post by Nathan deGargoyle on Sept 5, 2006 12:08:01 GMT
Well you could try the old theatrical standby of imagining the Judge, Barristers and jurors as sitting there in their underwear. It should take your mind off the stress.
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Post by sandywinder on Sept 6, 2006 7:40:36 GMT
Well you could try the old theatrical standby of imagining the Judge, Barristers and jurors as sitting there in their underwear. It should take your mind off the stress. Just wave your wand and say the word 'Ridikulus'.
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Post by Pink Betty on Sept 6, 2006 7:51:22 GMT
Well you could try the old theatrical standby of imagining the Judge, Barristers and jurors as sitting there in their underwear. It should take your mind off the stress. Just wave your wand and say the word 'Ridikulus'. Thank you Sandy - that appeals to me a lot! Just been speaking to the policeman in charge of the case and he is going to tell both the barristers and the judge that I may have to leave the stand if I feel too yukky - this makes me feel a bit better. They are also going to let me see round the court room tomorrow. I am the last witness on Friday so......"you may have to complete your evidence on the Monday" and .
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