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Post by Pink Betty on Apr 17, 2012 9:32:53 GMT
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Post by aqua on Apr 18, 2012 23:45:14 GMT
I caught the Prof for abt 20 mins. She interviewed loads of other Profs, and no Plebs, as far as I noticed. Is this a good idea?
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Post by marchesarosa on Apr 19, 2012 14:47:01 GMT
The cosmopolitanism of ancient Rome provided a very interesting comparison with modern British multiculturalism which was made quite explicit by Mary Beard.
But the past is a foreign country, they do things differently there! For starters, there was no totalitarian Islam endorsing the murder of people of other faiths who did not agree Muhammad was God's Prophet.
Happy days! Apart from the odd Hebrew they were all pretty much polytheists until the Christians came along and provided lion food.
Funny, isn't it, we call martyrs people who are killed for their faith and Islam calls martyrs people who kill for theirs.
I thought the whole programme was a real eye-opener and very enjoyable.
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Post by jean on Apr 20, 2012 12:54:19 GMT
Apart from the odd Hebrew they were all pretty much polytheists until the Christians came along and provided lion food. But only because the totalitarianism of the ruling Roman polytheists endorsed the murder of people whose faith caused them to denounce all gods but their own. |
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Post by marchesarosa on Apr 22, 2012 8:28:01 GMT
Do I detect an analogy between Islam and the Roman Empire, here, jean?
I can go along with that! Islam IS a supranational empire, after all, which places ITS citizens above lesser breeds and indeed condones their murder.
The question is do you also equate Muhammad with Caligula?
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Post by jean on Apr 25, 2012 15:41:57 GMT
No, I don't think so - Marcus Aurelius, perhaps?
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Post by Pink Betty on Apr 28, 2012 15:37:19 GMT
i very much enjoy her enthusiastic presenting style and would like to see the bbc give a platform to similarly down to earth academics.
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Post by marchesarosa on Apr 30, 2012 17:25:26 GMT
It's brilliant, I agree, bets. I'm looking forward to tomorrow's episode 3.
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Post by aubrey on May 1, 2012 16:40:22 GMT
The Romans had the same kind of repressive state as the anti Muslims seem to want here - arbitrary arrest with conviction without trial for anyone suspected of undermining the state. They'd probably go as far as execution as well - maybe not as far as human (Christian: read Muslim) torches lining the Appenine way, was it?
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Post by marchesarosa on May 2, 2012 15:19:22 GMT
And where do you find the evidence for what the "anti-muslims" want here, aubrey?
I suggested stopping the importation of spouses from abroad (which circumvents our citizenship law) toprevent the disproportionate exponential growth of of the muslims community in the UK. But that hardly seems draconian, unless you see the nation state as an outmoded form of social organisation and the UK as having no values worth protecting from those with a totalitarian mindset?
If that is the case, spit it out, man, then are will know where you are coming from.
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Post by Pink Betty on May 2, 2012 18:03:19 GMT
The Romans had the same kind of repressive state as the anti Muslims seem to want here - arbitrary arrest with conviction without trial for anyone suspected of undermining the state. They'd probably go as far as execution as well - maybe not as far as human (Christian: read Muslim) torches lining the Appenine way, was it? what are you on about Aubrey? i wonder why muslims from all over the world want to come to Britain? probably because it's not as repressive as the states they come from? |
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Post by ciggie stardust on May 2, 2012 18:05:30 GMT
It can't be for the bloody weather!
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Post by ciggie stardust on May 2, 2012 18:06:17 GMT
...come to think of it - why did the Romans want to come here?
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Post by plebby bets on May 2, 2012 18:26:06 GMT
I caught the Prof for abt 20 mins. She interviewed loads of other Profs, and no Plebs, as far as I noticed. Is this a good idea? who can say? if you're using licence payers dosh to make some programs about ancient Rome probably best to get profs with smarts to talk about it all. us plebs can do the watching, and the learning! |
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Post by Samantha Brick on May 2, 2012 18:36:09 GMT
Ms Beard is too ugly to be on telly. I should be presenting because I am beautiful. You know I am. So just shut up with your hating reposts. And no. She's not my sister  |
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