Daz Madrigal
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Post by Daz Madrigal on Sept 10, 2006 20:22:43 GMT
Michael Scumacher. not just a cheat but a really obvious cheat. Dork! On the German news today it said that he will retire from F1 at the end of the season. gus << yawn >> Wake me up when you've finished talking about this arrogant bore of a man who epitomises EVERYTHING that is loathsome about the German character. Yes, Gargs..you're in a rich vein of form - into Room 101 he goes and good bloody riddance!  |
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sandywinder
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Post by sandywinder on Sept 11, 2006 8:59:38 GMT
Anyone can be a dork.
Talent, beauty, intelligence, self-inflicted health problems have nothing to do with it.
Best was such a dork because he DID have talent. If he wasn't so talented he wouldn't appear in any list. And his 'illness' was something that he could tackle but couldn't be arsed to. To me that makes him a dork.
On the other hand someone like Stephen Hawking's is NOT a dork because he has done his level best to overcome his illness and continue with his work despite his affliction.
So I have little or no sympathy for people like Best, Gascoigne and Doherty but I do have loads of sympathy and respect for people who have really fought their addictions.
Naseem also had a drugs problem but I see Mad had no difficulty in adding his name to the list, apparently because he was a Muslim.
I don't like Scumacher but I don't see him as a dork. Exactly how is he a dork? The only thing I see is his effort to succeed, even if he does show agggression in doing so.
To me a top dork is someone with talent who gets to the top and blows it big time through stupidity, such as taking drugs, too much booze or just acting like a pillock.
I suppose 'dork' depends much on how you define the word.
So if anyone would like to give me a better definition go ahead.
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Daz Madrigal
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Post by Daz Madrigal on Sept 11, 2006 10:34:11 GMT
Anyone can be a dork. Talent, beauty, intelligence, self-inflicted health problems have nothing to do with it. Best was such a dork because he DID have talent. If he wasn't so talented he wouldn't appear in any list. And his 'illness' was something that he could tackle but couldn't be arsed to. To me that makes him a dork. On the other hand someone like Stephen Hawking's is NOT a dork because he has done his level best to overcome his illness and continue with his work despite his affliction. So I have little or no sympathy for people like Best, Gascoigne and Doherty but I do have loads of sympathy and respect for people who have really fought their addictions. Naseem also had a drugs problem but I see Mad had no difficulty in adding his name to the list, apparently because he was a Muslim. I don't like Scumacher but I don't see him as a dork. Exactly how is he a dork? The only thing I see is his effort to succeed, even if he does show agggression in doing so. To me a top dork is someone with talent who gets to the top and blows it big time through stupidity, such as taking drugs, too much booze or just acting like a pillock. I suppose 'dork' depends much on how you define the word. So if anyone would like to give me a better definition go ahead. I'm afraid thats just a very very silly post. Since you've been here you've made a number of daft posts, Sandy but you're redeemed alongside Gus for being at least stimulating and entertaining. I know you are still smarting now that I've blown the UKIP, your mad proposal for 'Lib-Lab pacts' and something called 'Concensus Politics' without any form of leadership out of the water. George Best and Gascoigne made a nuisance of themselves. What they did NOT do was mow down a bloke whilst driving a car at 100mph over the brow of a hill in which he had NO IDEA who was coming in the opposite direction. Not ONLY that..he had been performing the self-same practice for ages. And then when he gets out of his ludicrously short jail term - presumably EMC would send him for driving lesson as rehab - he is fatuous enough to airily dismiss his victim who broke EVERY bone in his body 'by saying 'well at least I didnt kill anyone'. The point about him being Muslim brings forth the words 'kettle, pot, black' because you are reading something thats already in your own mind. Sandy, if YOU don't think driving a car at 100 mph when you cannot see who is coming in the opposite direction a dork yet place a devoted family man who put most of his money into the environment into the dork category then I will say this. I want to add a sixth member to the Dork Club..that of Sandy Winder for writing possibly the most fatuously stupid post I have ever had the disagreeable misfortune to read. Now get back to writing sensible posts instead of puerile tripe! |
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Post by Murray Walker on Sept 11, 2006 12:04:13 GMT
Having just heard that Michael Shumacher gave £6 million to the Tsunami fund - aka the Thai Govt. -my heart has softened somewhat.
No longer a dork then -
Schumaker is out of the race!!!
....and British driver Sandy Winder has taken the lead!
..............and I dont believe it but Prince Naseem has turned round and is coming the other way!!!
<< averts eyes >>
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Post by sandywinder on Sept 11, 2006 13:28:39 GMT
Anyone can be a dork. Talent, beauty, intelligence, self-inflicted health problems have nothing to do with it. Best was such a dork because he DID have talent. If he wasn't so talented he wouldn't appear in any list. And his 'illness' was something that he could tackle but couldn't be arsed to. To me that makes him a dork. On the other hand someone like Stephen Hawking's is NOT a dork because he has done his level best to overcome his illness and continue with his work despite his affliction. So I have little or no sympathy for people like Best, Gascoigne and Doherty but I do have loads of sympathy and respect for people who have really fought their addictions. Naseem also had a drugs problem but I see Mad had no difficulty in adding his name to the list, apparently because he was a Muslim. I don't like Scumacher but I don't see him as a dork. Exactly how is he a dork? The only thing I see is his effort to succeed, even if he does show agggression in doing so. To me a top dork is someone with talent who gets to the top and blows it big time through stupidity, such as taking drugs, too much booze or just acting like a pillock. I suppose 'dork' depends much on how you define the word. So if anyone would like to give me a better definition go ahead. I'm afraid thats just a very very silly post. Since you've been here you've made a number of daft posts, Sandy but you're redeemed alongside Gus for being at least stimulating and entertaining. I know you are still smarting now that I've blown the UKIP, your mad proposal for 'Lib-Lab pacts' and something called 'Concensus Politics' without any form of leadership out of the water. George Best and Gascoigne made a nuisance of themselves. What they did NOT do was mow down a bloke whilst driving a car at 100mph over the brow of a hill in which he had NO IDEA who was coming in the opposite direction. Not ONLY that..he had been performing the self-same practice for ages. And then when he gets out of his ludicrously short jail term - presumably EMC would send him for driving lesson as rehab - he is fatuous enough to airily dismiss his victim who broke EVERY bone in his body 'by saying 'well at least I didnt kill anyone'. The point about him being Muslim brings forth the words 'kettle, pot, black' because you are reading something thats already in your own mind. Sandy, if YOU don't think driving a car at 100 mph when you cannot see who is coming in the opposite direction a dork yet place a devoted family man who put most of his money into the environment into the dork category then I will say this. I want to add a sixth member to the Dork Club..that of Sandy Winder for writing possibly the most fatuously stupid post I have ever had the disagreeable misfortune to read. Now get back to writing sensible posts instead of puerile tripe! Naseem didn't actually kill anybody but George Best on the other hand did do - by depriving someone else of a liver. Unlike that person, Best had a second chance but he stilll remained a DORK. I think your clearly misguided views are clouded by the fact he played for Manchester United. |
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Daz Madrigal
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Post by Daz Madrigal on Sept 11, 2006 14:54:33 GMT
Accepting a liver transplant isn't murder..otherwise the courts would be full of rather ill looking people. I think approx 30 per cent return to drink. Its an illness that you wouldnt understand as a teetotaler, Sandy..its all very well if you're the 'Soda Pop Kid' but I've known a lot of perfectly decent and interesting people ruin themselves because of various substances.
I baulked slightly at the idea that I'd pick on little Naseem because he was Muslim and I'd equally baulk at the idea that I'd let George off because he played for M.U. lAs with Higgins, Gascoigne and afew other mavericks he was a 'pain in the ass' but was at least was 'a loveable rogue'.
..there nothing remotely lovable about Naseem and he wasn't even that good a boxer. In fact the very reason he was popular was because, lets be honest now, we ALL wanted to see him flattened and his gob firmly shut once and for all!
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Post by Daz Madrigal on Sept 11, 2006 15:06:48 GMT
I'm going to be even more controversial and claim that Linford Christie almost certainly took some drug to become the champion sprinter he eventually became. To put him in a job in charge of the Olympic runners is another dire example of the lack of scruple and morals in this country. Nothing to do with him being black. There are no black cyclists because they keep falling off and I accused the cyclists of being drug tskers..in fact anyone wearing lycra should be locked up in my view. Paula Ratcliffe was correct - and we love you, Paula! despite peeing in the road  - this man is a disgraceful example to our athletes. Anyway we're as hopeless at that as we are at cycling ........stick to football and rugby and games for people with real balls! |
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Post by Daz Madrigal on Sept 11, 2006 15:16:52 GMT
oh and heres No.1 dork.  Tom Cruise. |
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Post by sandywinder on Sept 12, 2006 9:18:42 GMT
I'm going to be even more controversial and claim that Linford Christie almost certainly took some drug to become the champion sprinter he eventually became. To put him in a job in charge of the Olympic runners is another dire example of the lack of scruple and morals in this country. Nothing to do with him being black. No you're only jealous because you don't have such a big lunch-pack. ;D P.S. I'm not a complete tee-totaller and in my past I put away more than an odd glass or two. Somehow though I never thought that ruining my life was worth drinking like a fish. And if I did I would have gone and got treatment for it like any other illness. Taking a liver from someone who would make the most of it (not ALL people who need replacement livers are winos) is something I never forgave Best for. Sorry, but that's my opinion. |
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Post by sandywinder on Sept 12, 2006 9:18:59 GMT
oh and heres No.1 dork. Tom Cruise. Good choice. |
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Daz Madrigal
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Post by Daz Madrigal on Sept 12, 2006 9:44:49 GMT
I'm going to be even more controversial and claim that Linford Christie almost certainly took some drug to become the champion sprinter he eventually became. To put him in a job in charge of the Olympic runners is another dire example of the lack of scruple and morals in this country. Nothing to do with him being black. No you're only jealous because you don't have such a big lunch-pack. ;D P.S. I'm not a complete tee-totaller and in my past I put away more than an odd glass or two. Somehow though I never thought that ruining my life was worth drinking like a fish. And if I did I would have gone and got treatment for it like any other illness. Taking a liver from someone who would make the most of it (not ALL people who need replacement livers are winos) is something I never forgave Best for. Sorry, but that's my opinion. You're deliberately distorting the facts. George Best didn't go out at night like Burke & Hare in an attempt to steal a liver from some recently dead cadaver but was given it to him by Chief Medical surgeon. It had NOTHING to do with him at all so the dork is the surgeon not George Best. There are no redeeming qualities to Naseem. When George died even his ex-Wives had lots of good to say about him and perfectly respectable icons such as Sir Bobby Charlton, Denis Law, Jimmy Greaves spoke of his many qualities. However that doesn't mean he had no bad features but I can come up with an even better analogy. Lets take John MacEnroe. During his entire playing career he would be your No.1 dork wouldn't he, Sandy. He was in fact the 'Dork par excellence', a childish ranting ignoramus with the attitude problems of a spoilt american brat. However, WHO was it who always got the biggest ratings? Which player was the most skillful? Which player made watching the tedious game of tennis eminently watchable? Which player turned out to have brains, wit and character? No it wasn't boring Borg it was MacEnroe and it just happens that as a commentator the World TV companies fight to get him to comment on the matches because he's got more brains than the lot of them put together. So he wasn't such a dork after all was he? In essence the difference between me and thee, Sandy is this and its my territory as an astrologer of world repute and a sage scholar of Human Nature. I'm prepared to see the myriad facets of these people in the whole round...whether it be Pr. Diana, John MacEnroe, Alex Higgins or George Best. Just as I also accept the flaws of Marilyn Monroe, Judy Garland, Marlon Brando and James Dean. Whatever you say of these people you cannot take away the spark of charisma. You instead champion the boring and tedious and dull. If that is what you want, Sandy then you belong on the Crumblies and QQR rather than the Daz Madrigal Board.  |
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Post by mimi on Sept 12, 2006 17:16:00 GMT
Daz, I wish you wouldn't keep suggesting the old and crumblies prefer tedious and dull subjects. I am on the crumblies. (Daz replies: I rest my case your honour.)
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Post by gus2 on Sept 12, 2006 17:27:02 GMT
Daz, I wish you wouldn't keep suggesting the old and crumblies prefer tedious and dull subjects. I am on the crumblies. (Daz replies: I rest my case your honour.) Mimi, Daz has still not recoverd from being ignominiously ejected from the Cheese not once but twice. Hell hath no fury like a poster scorned ;D gus |
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Daz Madrigal
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Post by Daz Madrigal on Sept 12, 2006 17:27:40 GMT
Oh its all tongue in cheek Mancunian sarcasm, Mimi. I just find it funny when people like Stevan get banned and then poor old Dirk says something like 'Oh please don't' and the guy Boss Cat does it anyway. Fortunately theres no cheesy stuff here and hence no mice. However I have been reading with interest your sons travails, Mimi. and wish him a safe journey home.
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Post by Daz Madrigal on Sept 12, 2006 17:29:11 GMT
Daz, I wish you wouldn't keep suggesting the old and crumblies prefer tedious and dull subjects. I am on the crumblies. (Daz replies: I rest my case your honour.) Mimi, Daz has still not recoverd from being ignominiously ejected from the Cheese not once but twice. Hell hath no fury like a poster scorned ;D gus Dunno about any fury, Gus. Revenge is a dish best served cold. |
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- this man is a disgraceful example to our athletes. Anyway we're as hopeless at that as we are at cycling ........stick to football and rugby and games for people with real balls!