sandywinder
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Post by sandywinder on Oct 9, 2006 14:07:07 GMT
As you say a council can choose which operator to use in the same way that with any individual under a capitalist system you can choose whichever service provider you want. So if your broadband supplier is not very good you can go elsewhere. Yes you sign a contract but it doesn't have to be for more than 6 months (unless you are weak in the head) and if the service is bad the word will soon get out that they are bad and the company's profits will suffer badly. So they have a massive incentive to provide good performance. With waste disposal, a private operator knows he will never get a job with another council if his service is poor or inadequate. So it is not in his interest (after paying for the trucks etc) to provide a poor service and the company would lose money for its shareholders (if it has them). This is not the case with councils who can continue to provide a poor service ad infinitum. If a different broadband operator comes up with a cheaper offer, you can go elsewhere. And if a company doing the rubbish disposal is not cheap enough or the quality of its service is poor YOU CAN GO ELSEWHERE. That's how it works. It is called competition. Efficiency, quality and value for money v an incompetent, apathetic state monopoly? Mmm let me see, which one is best? Tis'nt true there have been numerous cases of private companies fooking things up and being "rewarded " with new contracts. I believe the company whose name slips my memory handling the IT in the NHS is a case in point. Try reading Private Eye as a bit of a change from the Daily Wail you may, knowing you, I have to say "just may" get some idea of whats what and whos who. gus So what you are saying Gus is that the state are so bloody pathetic they even give contracts to companies that have done a BAD job. But surely,according to you, the people who work for the state are almost perfect and only those people running private companies are nasty? As we have a Labour government WHO can be surprised that every government department is so bloody useless that it even farms out work to KNOWN badly performing companies? But that doesn't call for new nationalisation. It calls for a new BLOODY government. |
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Post by gus2 on Oct 9, 2006 16:02:15 GMT
Tis'nt true there have been numerous cases of private companies fooking things up and being "rewarded " with new contracts. I believe the company whose name slips my memory handling the IT in the NHS is a case in point. Try reading Private Eye as a bit of a change from the Daily Wail you may, knowing you, I have to say "just may" get some idea of whats what and whos who. gus So what you are saying Gus is that the state are so bloody pathetic they even give contracts to companies that have done a BAD job. But surely,according to you, the people who work for the state are almost perfect and only those people running private companies are nasty? As we have a Labour government WHO can be surprised that every government department is so bloody useless that it even farms out work to KNOWN badly performing companies? But that doesn't call for new nationalisation. It calls for a new BLOODY government. No one is saying that anyone is perfect, and please do not compare the branch of the Tories called New Labour with a Labour government, which would not have let private companies get their grubby hands on the silver in the first place. gus |
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Post by gus2 on Oct 9, 2006 16:06:26 GMT
No worries Daz - I am not in the least offended you err....spamming trolling flamer! ;D (note to Jilona, this was said with affection and meant in a humourous way) I'm not sure Jilona will understand the words "affection" or "humourous" mel.You could offer her a dictionary definition though. ;D Entschuldigen Sie mal bitte is this thread about Gordan Brown or the head the balls over on JSG ;D gus |
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sandywinder
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Post by sandywinder on Oct 10, 2006 8:55:28 GMT
So what you are saying Gus is that the state are so bloody pathetic they even give contracts to companies that have done a BAD job. But surely,according to you, the people who work for the state are almost perfect and only those people running private companies are nasty? As we have a Labour government WHO can be surprised that every government department is so bloody useless that it even farms out work to KNOWN badly performing companies? But that doesn't call for new nationalisation. It calls for a new BLOODY government. No one is saying that anyone is perfect, and please do not compare the branch of the Tories called New Labour with a Labour government, which would not have let private companies get their grubby hands on the silver in the first place. gus New Labour, Old Labour. They are both the same kind of incompetent tossers who can't run any business (let alone a complex one like the NHS) because deep down they are anti-business. It's a bit like letting George Bush chair the Global Warming Committee. Or making Farage of UKIP the next President of the EU. Or putting China in charge of the World Human Rights Organisation. |
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Post by gus2 on Oct 10, 2006 17:31:28 GMT
No one is saying that anyone is perfect, and please do not compare the branch of the Tories called New Labour with a Labour government, which would not have let private companies get their grubby hands on the silver in the first place. gus New Labour, Old Labour. They are both the same kind of incompetent tossers who can't run any business (let alone a complex one like the NHS) because deep down they are anti-business. It's a bit like letting George Bush chair the Global Warming Committee. Or making Farage of UKIP the next President of the EU. Or putting China in charge of the World Human Rights Organisation. Well at least it gives you a chance to rant, what more do you want, jam on it. ;D gus |
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sandywinder
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Post by sandywinder on Oct 11, 2006 7:30:44 GMT
Let's make Gus the next boss of the CBI.
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Post by gus2 on Oct 11, 2006 7:43:24 GMT
Let's make Gus the next boss of the CBI. CBI is short for: Meaning Category Capital Bank International Business->General Caribbean Basin Initiative Business->International Business Central Bureau Of Investigation Governmental Chemical/ Biological Information Governmental->Military Chicago Bridge & Iron Company Business->NYSE Symbols China Burma India Governmental->Military Choi Brothers, Incorporated Business->Firms Clean Bad Idle Governmental->Transportation Cocoa Butter Improvers Miscellaneous->Food Colorado Bureau Of Investigation Governmental->State & Local Comic Book Internet Internet Community Based Instruction Community->Educational Community Based Instructions Community Computer Based Instruction Governmental->Military Governmental->Transportation Confederation of British Industry Community->Media Confidential Business Information Business->General Constant Bladder Irrigation Medical->Physiology Continuous Brainstorming Investigations Community->Schools Corrupt Babus Of India Governmental Cricket Badmen Of India Community->Sports Critical Behavior Inventory Medical->Physiology Custom Business Interiors Business->Firms Cyborg Bureau Of Intelligence Miscellaneous->Science Fiction I have already been accused today of potty trouble I hope you are not referring to my bladder ;D gus |
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sandywinder
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Post by sandywinder on Oct 11, 2006 8:03:37 GMT
Communist Bullshit Incorporation.
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Post by gus2 on Oct 11, 2006 13:21:32 GMT
Communist Bullshit Incorporation. Capitalist Bollox Insiderinformation gus |
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